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in the first presidential debate when governor romney said this -- >> what would i cut from spending? obamacare is on the list. i use that term with all respect. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things. i love pbs and big bird, and i actually like you, too. lou: president obama not able to resist since then referring to big bird yesterday and today, and here's what he said. >> for all of you moms and kids out there, don't worry, somebody's finally getting tough on big bird. [cheers and applause] rounding him up. elmo's got to watch out too. governor romney plans to let wall street run wild, but he's bringing the hammer down on "sesame street," it makes sense. lou: the president was trying to make a joke, but, mr. president, wait a minute. turns out big bird is deserving of considerable public attention. upon further investigation, it appears the last thing the president should be doing is to minimize what's happening to the taxpayer money because of big bird, all his friends like elmo and jim lehrer. the president should be paying attention to the count to help him with the number
years. will these new numbers mean lights out for romney's post debate afterglow? new ads kat aare catered to cri inting states. joining me live is jan schakowsky. congresswoman, it's great to have you here. business pioneer jack welch basically calls these numbers into question. had this remark that he tweeted out earlier today saying, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate, so change numbers. what do you say to that? even the white house though right now this morning reluctant to spike the football on this. in their statement saying it is critical we continue the policies that are building an economy that works for the middle cla class as we dig our way out of a deep hole. what is your response to those questioning the validity? >> that's really interesting because i happened to see one of those chicago guys last night. i was with david axelrod. i asked him what do you expect about the jobs numbers? he says, i really don't know. we're hoping it will be good. so, you know, it doesn't surprise me that romney supporters are now going to take thi
before the second presidential debate. they will be hitting it hard in the debate. romney and ryan in friendly territory here in fishersville. the rally won't be until later on today because they want all those sound bites from last night's debate to marinate before romney and ryan take it stage here today. bill: john roberts in the western part of virginia. martha: while all this marinates. president obama has been hit with some criticism from some republicans for bringing former president bill clinton into the mix. >> we tried both approaches. the approach governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. and we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years, we ended up moving from surplus to deficits, and it all culminated in the financial crisis since the great depression. bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million you are in jobs. we went from deficit to surplus, and businesses did very well. martha: don't forget that bill clinton did very well for this president at his convention. but there is karl rove's
>> no question about it. mitt romney is the clear winner of last night's debate, even i'm co conceding the obama loss. we all agree on this. the real question on moving forward is weather romney's win will change the race. we've seen mondale outperform president raleigh in 1984 and with john kerry defeated bush. neither kerry or mondale translated that into an election night win, although steve kornacki likes to think about a potential mondale president history. as the dust settles, they're back on the trail today. obama is en route to a rally in wisconsin, but earlier today in denver supporters saw the obama we hoped to see last night. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing, never heard of them. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney, because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time
>>> this is "world news." tonight, the debate drama. the president tries to rally after mitt romney's big night. what insiders tell us today about why the president was off his game. >>> breaking news. those loose passenger seats force american airlines to ground 48 planes tonight, causing even more delays and cancelled flights. >>> health alert. a mysterious outbreak of meningitis, deaths, serious illness. and it's linked to a treatment for back pain which was somehow contaminated. >>> real money. can we put thousands of dollars in your pocket right now? doubling the value of that old car in your driveway. >>> good evening. we begin with that question we heard asked across the country today. what was going on with president obama at the big debate with governor mitt romney last night? we have learned that 67.2 million americans were watching last night and governor romney came out swinging. the president seemed to be dodging the fight. with only 33 days to go until your voice, your vote, why was the president off his game? has the whole race changed today? we'll start with abc's ja
debate was over, mitt romney was the only contender with a reason to keep smiling. according to a cnn poll, 67% of adults thought romney won the debate compared to just 25% who picked the president. 46% of undecided voters in a cbs poll gave the win to romney to just 22% for mr. obama. nearly a third of the undecideds were undecided. romney's positive rating rose above 50% for the first time in this campaign in a reuters poll. the president's ratings stayed unchanged at 56%. romney stayed on the attack even though his positions were to be charitable and flatly untrue. here's some of what he said about his tax plan and the economy. >> romney: i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. my view is we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class but i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high income people. we have 23 million people out of work. or stop look for work in this country. >> eliot: here's how the obama campaig
-- battleground states after having their say at their first debate. 47% believe romney won compared with 34% for president obama in a survey of californians. 18% felt there was no clear winner. last night's debate focused on the economy and other domestic issues. and, of course, that debate took place in denver in colorado. colorado is a swing state. different surveys show mitt romney is the winner of the first debate. there are two more presidential debates coming up. bigad shaban has highlights. >> reporter: good morning. it seems like mitt romney got the boost he was hoping for after putting the president on the defensive for much of the night. romney touted his own accomplishments as governor of massachusetts but continually pointed to what he called the failed promises of the obama administration. >> reporter: the first presidential debate started with a handshake and a romantic moment. >> 20 years ago, i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most romantic place yo
. >> trickle down government, zing. the crowd there clearly energized by romney's debate performance last night and obama's senior adviser david axelrod praised it as well suggesting it was oscar-worthy, though not worthy of the white house. due to some basic problems with simple veracity. >> i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. i can't understand how you can cut medicare $716 billion for current recipients of medicare. pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. an unelected board, appointed board who are going to decide what kind of treatments you ought to have. >> not true, not true, not true, not true. and since mr. romney got the last word at the debate last night, why don't we give the last word today to the president. >> he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last year. so governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> well said, mr. president. let's get right to our panel. in washington form eer communications director and msnbc political analyst karen finney, and in ph
" with lawrence o'donnell. >>> can mitt romney win the debate tonight? yes and i will show him how to do that. will he win? this is mitt romney we're talking about. what are the odds of him taking my advice. >> both presidential candidates battening down the hatches. >> who's going to bring the dynamite to denver. >> only with an day to go. >> the great debate. >> the rocky mountain showdown. >> 350e78 want to know who's going to win. >> who's going to score the punches. >> what you need is sin certifity, if you can fake that you can do everything. >> mitt romney tried to show his empathy. >> i don't think there's anything that shows more empathy. >> i'm sfriesed it took him that long to get there. he didn't spend enough time in the middle. >> romney's task is more difficult. >> romney's task is more difficult. >> he has to introduce himself to the american people. >> how many times can you reintroduce yourself. >> i'm mitt romney, i'm mitt romney, i'm mitt romney ♪ >> i'm mitt romney. >> i believe that abargs should be safe and local in this country. >> i will repeal obama care. >> don't f
. for that reason and that reason alone, i think this debate is very important for mitt romney. >> can i pick -- >> and i think the debates -- i personally think debates are so great for candidates because they can talk without the filter of all of us saying what this means or what that means. and mitt romney, you know, you look at mitt romney, he's been portrayed as this 47% guy, and a lot of faux pases that he's made. this is his chance to talk to the american people straight. i remember 1980 -- and i bring this up to you, sam, because you weren't even born in 1980. >> i was not, yeah. >> but ronald reagan, people forget, before the debate, ronald reagan was painted as this looney, right-wing fanatic that would start world war iii, dr. strangelove, and it was the debate that stuck a needle in that balloon. >> i remember it well. >> not even born yet. i mean, this is romney's chance. >> sure. >> to connect with the american people. >> to pick up on mike's point, fascinating number from the poll is this. 51% of people who said they had heard or read something about romney in the last couple w
the debate. that's my advice to governor romney and it's time to begin panicking a little bit. >> time to begin panicking? but don't worry, governor romney has a solution. zingers. the "new york times" reports that mr. romney's team has concluded that debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers that he has memorized and has been practicing since august. zingers? mr. romney doesn't need zingers. he needs new ideas. he needs a new campaign. truth be told, he needs a new candidate. after all, the guy he's been debating all along has been himself on health care. >> i'm not getting rid of all of health care reform. of course, there are a number of things that i like in health care reform. >> well, of course. i'm going to repeal obama care. i've said that on the campaign trail. i think every single day obama care must be repealed in its entirety. >> he was for it before he was against it. and that auto bailout -- >> you said, quote, if general motors, ford, and chrysler gets the bailouts that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the au
very busy doing just that while her husband, mitt romney, has been doing debate preparations just a short distance away in denver. it will be fascinating, wolf, to watch the body language between mitt romney and president obama tomorrow night when they meet face-to-face as the obama campaign revealed to cnn, the two men have only met a few times in the past. flash back to 2008 and there they are. then-senator barack obama and mitt romney sharing a few moments on stage after back-to-back democratic and republican presidential debates in new hampshire. they also ran into each other at a labor day parade in 2007. a campaign source cataloging the meetings tells cnn these are just two of the three times the candidates have ever seen each other in person. flash forward to 2012 one day before the debate. romney briefly stopped for lunch grabbing bued burritos at chipo >> people want to know who's going to win. who's going to score the punches? >> reporter: at a pre-debate rally in denver, romney seemed to down play reports that his campaign has prepped him with zingers to go after the pr
>> chris: i'm chris wallace. the romney-ryan ticket turns to the debates, to try to narrow the gap against president obama. ♪ >> chris: with 37 days until the election, we go on the campaign trail, with paul ryan. >> this is a high stakes election, we are giving the country a clear choice. >> chris: and sit down for an exclusive interview in which we discuss the economy, the new focus on national security. and, growing criticism of the romney campaign. paul ryan, only on fox news sunday. then... we'll preview wednesday's first obama-romney debate. we'll ask our sunday panel which each candidate needs to do to win the first first off. and our power player of the week, has spent almost half of his life, telling the inside story of how a president rose and fell from power. all, right now, on fox news. ♪ >> chris: and hello again, from fox news in washington. with just five weeks until election day, a new poll showing president obama leading in key swing states, the presidential debates may be mitt romney's last, best chance to turn the race around and we wanted to find out what th
romney overwhelmingly one the presidential debate, by a historical margin. the impact of his victory is driving governor romney's poll numbers radically higher. this brand-new poll from the pew research center six ohs governor romney nationally jumping to a four-point lead over president obama. that represents a 12-point swing from just a month ago. and according to the new survey from the left leaning website, politico, governor romney extended his lead amongst independents. the republican nominee now leads president obama by 16 points in a key demographic. governor romney's lead there was only four points a week ago. parenthetically in 2008, president obama when the independent vote by eight points over john mccain. we will take all of that up here tonight with fox news senior political analyst, brit hume, congressional candidate mia love and the a-team tonight is brad blakeman, judith miller, and james freeman. the obama white house is caught up in a torrent of questions about its response. the last ones about the terrorist attack in benghazi. charges of cover-up and incompetence
>> chris: i'm chris wallace. the romney ryan ticket turns to the debates to try to narrow the gap against president obama. with 37 days until the election, we go on the campaign trail with paul ryan. >> this is a high stakes election. we will give the country a very clear choice. >> chris: and we sit down for an exclusive interview in which we discuss the economy, the new focus on national security and growing criticism of the rney mpmpgngn ululyayaonly on "fox newew susuay th, we will preview wednesday's first obama/romney debate and ask our sunday panel what each candidate needs to do to win the first face-off. and our power player of the week has spent almost half his life telling the inside story of how a president rose and fell from power. all right now on "fox news sunday." and hello again from fox news in washington. with just five weeks until election day and new polls showing president obama leading in key swing states, the presidential debates may be mitt romney's last best chance to turn this race around. and so we wanted to find out what the romney/ryan plan is when they face
sunday." then, we will preview wednesday's first obama/romney debate and ask our sunday panel what each candidate needs to do to win the first face-off. and our power player of the week has spent almost half his life telling the inside story of how a president rose and fell from power. all right now on "fox news sunday." and hello again from fox news in washington. with just five weeks until election day and new polls showing president obama leading in key swing states, the presidential debates may be mitt romney's last best chance to turn this race around. and so we wanted to find out what the romney/ryan plan is when they face off against obama and biden. we caught up with running mate paul ryan saturday in new hampshire. before we sat down for an exclusive interview, we spoke briefly as he was about to it take the stage for a campaign town hall. >> what do you think just before you go out on stage each time? >> president obama is taking us in the wrong direction. mitt romney and i are offering them a different direction and i'm excited at the opportunity to give people the chance to
in the debates. >> geraldo: a fox news alert. i'm geraldo rivera reporting that in the wake of mitt romney's undeniable triumph in wednesday's presidential debate there is conflicting evidence on whether the republican challenger continues to enjoy a post debate bounce. the rasmussen pressial tracking poll says clearly that he does. scott scores the rates romney 49% to obama's 47%. but today's gallup daily tracking poll still has the president up slightly saturday's gallup scoring the race obama 49% to romney's 46%. nowyer with reflects the current reality it is obviously a razor thin margin. so is there added pressure on the vice presidential candidates for their are thursday night debate? and who better to ask than bill kristol, the editor of "the weekly standard." was chief of staff for are then senator dan quayle during his debate against senator lloyd benson. while he probably lost the debate the bush quail ticket won the 1988 election in a landslide. how important then are vice presidential debates, bill? welcome. what do you think? >> i think this vice presidential debate is importa
. bush to something better. romney came out best in the first debate because he denied the path he has chosen, denied the big tax cut from 35% down to 28% for people at the top bracket. the all-out elimination of the estate tax, the big-time cut in the corporate rate. he denied his plan to eliminate medicare, denied he would kill coverage for those with pre-existing conditions. he got away without bothering to deny his plan to let the automobile industry to go bankrupt and to dump 40 million people to wait in the emergency room. let's look at some of the latest polling in the wake of wednesday's debate. this afternoon pew released a poll that showed a dramatic shift toward romney. this poll covers the four days since the debate, and it has romney pulling even with president obama among registered voters, 46% even. four weeks ago pew had obama up by nine among registered voters, so this has been a huge shift in the pew poll. the move in the pew poll towards romney is greater among likely voters. romney is surging ahead to 49%. four weeks ago obama led among likely voters by eight. now t
debate will actually mean for the race. mitt romney getting positive reviews and will that translate into votes? some say president obama had an off night. tom fitzgerald is tracking all of the reaction. fitz, the president himself came out swinging today? >> reporter: he did, will. the president took on the role of the spin master in chief. speaking in colorado, he mocked mitt romney's policies, challenged his facts and pointed out differences between what mitt romney said last night and during the campaign. the problem, though, is that a much smaller group of people saw the president's appearance today than the 50 million who watched last night as mitt romney gave the political performance of his life. >> reporter: fresh off of what many supporters viewed as a disappointing debate, president obama is trying to hit reset. >> when i got on to the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. >> reporter: speaking in denver, the president argued mitt romney's debate performance was big on style but short on facts. >> the real mitt romney has been running around
face back following wednesday's debate telling voters in denver yesterday about the real mitt romney. >> the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year, promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to favor the wealthy, the fellow on stage last night said, he didn't know anything about that. the real mitt romney said we don't need any more teachers in our classrooms, but -- don't boo. vote. >> but has the obama campaign voted on how to portray the republican nominee? we will return to the paradox of the mittens when obama's super pac chief bill burton joins the package, next on "now." ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing the all-new completely re-imagined 2013 chevrolet malibu. sleek new styling... sophisticated dual cockpit design, and sport sculpted seats. available chevrolet mylink infotainment system. the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu. ♪ refined comfort to get you in a malibu state of mind no matter what state you live in. ♪ we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day a
morning." a cbs news poll shows mitt romney outshines president obama in their first debate. >> a border clash erupts between turkey and syria, raising the stakes in the ongoing civil war. >> baseballas its first triple crown winner since 1967 and who want to tear down a house by one of america's greatest architect. >> we begin this morning with today's eye opener, your world in 90 seconds. >>> middle income americans have been buried. they are being crushed. >> mitt romney goes on the offensive. >> five weeks before the election he's saying his big bold idea is never mind. >> you're entitled to president to your own airplane and own house but not your own facts. >> where was obama tonight? >> we pundits don't know whether debates matter but we do know debates over whether debates matter matter. >> syrian targets in retaliation killing five civilians. >> very dangerous situation. >> a rare and deadly meningitis outbreak leads to steroid injections is now spreading. four people have died. >> miguel cabrera has become the first player to win the triple crown since carl yastrzemski in 1967.
policy debate with the president. this mitt romney needs to debate the old mitt romney as well. on each of these things he's taken the opposite position. there's an extended criticism of the president's take on syria, for instance. yet this is the same mitt romney who also said getting involved with libya would be mission creep. he opposed that in one country and now proposes it somewhere else. the point of consistent for him is israel. to pa are a phrase joe biden every foreign policy sentence has a noun, verb and the word israel in it. when it comes to the actual position saying a president needs to be involved in the middle east, it's drifted, that's true about the peace process. this is the same mitt romney, i believe, who was taped talking about the 47% and said, you know, when it comes to the middle east it's never going to happen. i will leave it to the next guy. >> we have that. let's listen to what mitt romney. almost literally said to kick the can down the road. this is part of the infamous 47% videotape taken surreptitiously in florida this year. let's listen to what he said
acknowledging his debate performance fell flat and now they're arguing that mitt romney fooled voters during that faceoff. i spoke to bernie sanders of vermont about the debate performance and started by showing some confusing statements from the president. listen to this. >> governor romney and i both agree our cooperate tax rate is too high. we both agree we've got to boost american energy production and it appears we've got some agreement that a marketplace to work has to have some regulation. i suspect that on social security we've got a somewhat similar position. >> you understand what he was trying do there? >> yeah, i do. >> i got a bit confused. >> i think you're right, wolf. and i think that is a disastrous approach. the truth of the matter is mitt romney right now is the head of a right-wing extremist party called the republican party. it wasn't always the case. that's what they are today. if the president cannot differentiate himself clearly from right-wing extremism, we've got a lot of problems as a nation and he's got problems as a candidate running for re-election. in terms of
house. after mitt romney outperformed the president in the first debate. and now knew jobs numbers are likely to provide more fuel for their next debate. the unemployment rate unexpectedly fell to 7.8 in september down from 8.1 the previous month and the lowest since january 2009. a separate survey of employers shows businesses added 114,000 jobs last month. and let's bring in jessica yellen. what's the obama white house saying about all of this? >> they're effectively saying that the economy, while it's still weak, is showing signs that the president's policies are working, that his agenda is finally getting traction in the economy. here's what the president had to say. >> there are too many middle class families that are still struggling to pay the bills. they were struggling long before the crisis hit. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try and talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> that was friday right after the jobs numbers came out. i'll point out two meaningful things about t
not been too hesitant in criticizing mitt romney aside from those 90 minutes when they were on the debate stage together. but i think obama is also kind of playing the role of the attack dog over the past few days, at least. >> erin, congressman ryan has a full schedule of campaign events in the days proceeding the event. vice president biden, as you have been saying, has been hunkering down to prepare. what does that say about the confidence level in the final days before the debate. given all the criticism that people received, people accusing him of not being prepared, mitt romney being very well prepared. do you think that the obama camp is taking a look at that and trying to apply improvements to the vice presidential debate? >> there's no question about that. as i said, of course vice president biden is spending the week at his home. but paul ryan, i would point out, has gone to his home in janisville, wisconsin, fairly frequently as being picked as romney's running mate so he can do this debate prep. but i would say the expectations are much higher for paul ryan going into the deba
're done. >> bret: survey says, round one goes to romney. how both sides say he won the debate. how the president lost and where we go from here. this is "special report". good evening. i'm bret baier. mitt romney is hoping to take the ball and run with it after what was by most accounts a winning performance in the first of three debates with president obama. governor romney running mate, paul ryan, will be at a rally in virginia in a few minutes. the candidates are spreading out to some of the most hotly contested battle grounds after romney's gather not guilty virginia, he will move on to florida tomorrow. president obama had an event in denver, then in wisconsin today and goes on to virginia and ohio friday. we have fox team coverage tonight. jim angle has a fact check on last night's most heated issue, tax policy. ed henry has the obama campaign reaction. and we begin with carl cameron on the first debate. good evening, carl. >> hi, brett. the romney campaign could hardly be more excited about what happened last night. in fact, since the debate ended, they say they've been gett
happened last night. when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are these years. so in terms of understanding the historical context of what happened last night when mitt romney beat president obama in this first debate, this is the universe of like things to compare it to. this is how to understand it in terms of american political history. it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that debate the g
happened last night when mitt romney beat president obama in this first debate, this is the universe of like things to compare it to. this is how to understand it in terms of american political history. it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that debate the gravitas of being the president of the united states facing off against some non-president who wants their job. that only happens once per president. and these are the only times that has happened on tv in our nation's history. that's it. and this is the situation that president obama found himself in last night. it's only happened six other times in american history. so how did he do in historical context? there isn't that much historical context, right? like, this is a very knowable thing. honestly, that first one, that first one in 1976 where incumbent president gerald ford face
. and let's understand this, the one thing they saw in the debate was clear -- mitt romney's plan is to back to a failed economic theory, of tax cuts for the rich. the notion that let's go to war with "sesame street" but give wall street a big wet kiss, that's exactly what got us into this mess. that's what we've spent four years digging out. >> that's really not what they saw. i get the interpretation you've got a campaign to win. but what they saw was one guy who seemed to be somebody they had never seen before. he shattered the fiction of the advertising he was the guy brimming with new ideas and energy. they saw the president of the united states who was sleepwalking the whole time. >> i don't disagree -- >> the tired contrast rang a bell with people. romney's got ideas and the president, there's no vision for a second term. >> mike, i don't doubt this was somebody they never seen before. quite frankly, i think there were people in the romney campaign that had never seen this candidate. a week ago paul ryan was asked to explain the math of a $4.8 billion tax cut. he said i don't have tim
: at the campaign stop, the president took aim at some of romney's debate claims. >> when i got on to the stage, i met a very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but you know it couldn't have been mitt romney, because they have are been running around the country for the last year. and they are showing $5 trillion to pay for the wealthy. and last night, he said he didn't know anything about that. >> reporter: with election day less than five weeks away, it remains to be seen if the debate success translates into votes. both men have schedules packed with the stops in the battleground state and two weeks to prepare for their next face-to-face meeting. reporting live. >> the next debate for the presidential candidate, october receive in new york. >>> switching gears now. imagine the heartbreak of watching your special needs child, trying to fit in with the other kids. coming up at 7:00, the four- legged helper is giving this little girl a breath of fresh air. >> looking forward to that. >>> still to come in this half hour, a local congressman is facing the fight of the political life as h
line. >> i watched the debate for a second time tonight, and the first time i thought romney had him back on his heels of a lot. the second time through, i really did not see much difference or hear anything new from either one of them. romney seems to have been able to sugarcoat his theory of cutting spending, getting rid of what he would call our entitlements. obama was able to put a little different face on things. the second time through, i really don't think there was much of a gain by either one. >> your thoughts on a republican president? >> the first time through, i thought president obama was a little back on his heels the first time through. the second time through, i felt like he really stated his. and he was accurate. romney was able to turn around and kind of twist things, the way they have been doing. i thought rod did ok. i guess i was expecting him to be a little more aggressive -- i thought barack did ok. >> not only can you post your opinion on facebook, there was a poll we were taking of who won the first presidential debate. people weighing in st. mitt romney by a
or break week for president obama and governor romney. hunk eering down, cramming for e big debate. what are the secrets to land the knockout punch? >>> peanut butter, a massive recall expanding tonight. we'll tell you which symptoms could spell trouble. >>> and, oscar stunner. the new host for the academy awards. not a movie star. why fans of the "family guy" are having the last laugh tonight. >> victory is mine! >>> good evening from "world news." and we begin with breaking news. an american airlines plane has been forced to land urn strannd strange circumstances. a whole row of seats shaken loose. passengers upended. and this is the second time seats have come loose and forced a landing in three days. so, what is going on? for the latest on what happened today, let's go right to abc's senior national correspondent, jim avila. >> 685, what can i do for you? >> roger. got an unusual one for you. >> reporter: no one can remember this happening before. not passengers, so rattled they didn't want to be identified. >> the seats flipped backwards and so people were essentially on the laps of
now, we're counting down to tonight's presidential debate. mitt romney's motorcade just pulled up at the debate hall. president obama's expected to arrive in denver any minute as well. we'll be talking with top supporters of each candidate. the former new york city mayor rudy giuliani, he'll join us live this hour. also we'll be hearing from both candidates' wives in special cnn interviews. today, by the way, is the obama's 20th wedding anniversary. so what's it like spending the night with the romneys? i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >>> 34 days from the presidential election but much more importantly right now at least right now we've reached what may be the most decisive night of the 2012 campaign, the first presidential debate at the university of denver. after weeks of downplaying expectations, mitt romney's campaign insiders are finally opening up about what they really think can be accomplished tonight. cnn's national political correspondent jim acosta is in denver getting ready to set the scene. jim. >> reporter: wolf, the romney campaign sees the polls m
colorado. can a solid performance at the denver debate help mitt romney change the perceptions and boost his poll numbers? >>> and the expectations game isn't slowing down one bit. both sides say the other side was one of the most gifted debate performers in the history of mankind. so if they're both right, then this should be a heck of a night on wednesday, shouldn't they? lincoln douglas, watch out. >>> plus at the brink, a special nbc news report from all across the middle east, afghanistan, iran, syria, as multiple situations grow more dangerous da, what challenges face this president and whoever takes office in january? >>> good morning from washington. it's monday, october 1st, 2012. this is the daily rundown. i'm chuck todd. one more rundown. let's get to the rundown. mitt romney need as great october to change the course of this campaign. for your him it had to begin wednesday night in denver. romney had just a rough three weeks. he's had a rough three months. you could argue that romney hasn't, quote, won a month in this campaign since may or june. a trailing campaign has just a
the winner win? can a good debate performance erase months of a campaign? about three hours ago mitt romney took a foreign policy swipe in what will be billed as a big speech. >> the president has failed to offer the tangible support that our partners want and need. i know the president hopes for a safer, freer and more prosperous middle east allied with us. i share this hope, but hope is not a strategy. the greater tragedy of it all is we're missing a historic opportunity to win new friends who share our values in the middle east, friends fighting for their own futures against the same violent extremists and evil tyrants and angry mobs that seek to harm up. >> right now the president is speaking at the national headquarters of the united farm workers union in california. does any of this really matter? do the polls matter? do ads, nearly a billion dollars worth matter? do all the campaign appearances tell the tale? we asked that with our team plus a friend of the show dr. john nan allen from politico. >> prish the intro. >> we have 29 days to go, and we know almost nobody decides based on
frankly in the past debate. one of the other things we're talking about this week is the fact that romney seemingly in what he laid out in the past debate on his tax cuts, what he's saying and the reality of his plan don't add up. the president wasn't able effectively say to him, you know, you haven't been specific on the deductions. he did not directly challenge mitt romney, and one of the things looking forward this week interesting to see is whether joe biden is able to turn to paul ryan in that way and say, your math doesn't add up. give me one specific deduction. in some ways i think with joe biden and paul ryan it's going to be an even more damaging conversation if ryan has to obviscate and come up with specifics because he's the numbers guy. >> he's going to be prepared. we'll be prepared. >> he doesn't have enough time it to answer the question, but going back to the theme of the day, what matters, the economy always matters. ever since the cold war it's been about the economy with the possible exception of '04, right? we're in the war of terrorism. >> even in '04 the exit polls s
romney as a souvenir of the night he crushed you in that debate. >> my gosh. okay. >> so that's what he's doing. because i'm sitting there going, what's he doing? >> good morning, everyone. >> it makes more sense. it fills in the blank. >> that gives us proper context. >> it is friday. it is friday, thank god. i need two days away from all of you people. october 5th. >> mika, hold on. >> no, stop. >> you need a couple of days away from politics. >> no, i don't. >> mika, all day yesterday -- >> what you say off tv sometimes stays off tv. >> i'm not going to repeat what you said. i've never seen her so depressed. she sort of wandered around. >> it was just one day. >> i swear to god, she was wandering around getting lost in crowds. >> no, that's just how i walk. >> i swear to god, she'd go, "he might win." >> no, i did not do that. now you're making up stuff. i do get lost in crowds, but that's because i have no sense of direction and i'm on my iphone. okay. >> chosen one may not be chosen this time. >> no. >> and it's freaking her out. >> it was a bad night. i will say this, i don't know
? and what we found in the debate was that mitt romney kind of walked away from a lot of the policies he had been talking about, so president obama i think didn't have the opportunity he should have had to compare their plans because every time he talked about what was in the romney plan, romney said oh, no, no, no, that's not in my plan when it of course had been for the last six months. next time we're going to have to go back at that a little bit. and the second point was that when we look at -- at america today, you know, we're not in a -- in a state -- yes, everybody's got the economy as their number one issue, but people don't live in that kind of binary world. when an immigrant family is worried about whether their children are going to be deported, they can't study as hard at school. when a woman -- when a mom is worried about, you know, paying for her reproductive health, you know, that adds an extra burden to her economic struggles. when a gay and lexan family doesn't have benefits or isn't recognized, you know, the workplace and where they choose to work becomes a much bigger stru
independent groups, you know, what people said was, okay, mitt romney won the debate on -- on style, but it didn't change their mind about the election, and i think voters are really looking for answers, like these jobs reports i think are -- are significant, and that's why the republicans are doing everything they can to discredit them because what we're saying -- what we're seeing is that we're moving in the right direction. we found ourselves in a hole and are moving in the right direction and president obama has been pretty steady eddie about that, and that's what voters are going to respond to. >> so you think then that the jobs report is enough to cancel out obama's debate performance, or will there be continued damage? >> i don't think there's any comparison. the jobs reports are about real people and real lives and where the economy is going. the debate was, as i said, just sort of important theater, and -- but if i -- i actually watched the debate again yesterday just to try to get it. president obama didn't do so badly. he was much quieter. he was more thoughtful. he got a
did in the debate! obama lost despite mitt romney doing this. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs, i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to spend money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> he [ bleep ] fired big bird! he still won walking away. romney won with the sound up. >> you're entitled to your own airplane and your own house but not to your own facts. >> romney won with the sound off. dude, he's yelling at you! look up! look up! what are you looking at? what are you writing that's so important? what are you doing -- oh, that's not -- oh, i didn't realize. that is impressive work. i didn't realize that. maybe you could give that to mitt romney as a souvenir of the night he crushed you in that debate. >> my gosh. okay. >> so that's what he's doing. because i'm sitting there going, what's he doing? >> good morning, everyone. >> it makes more sense. it fills in the blank. >> that gives us proper context. >> it is friday. it is friday, thank god. i need two days away from all of y
and governor mitt romney get ready for a face-off at this week's first debate. >>> plus a couple of big surprises from arnold schwarzenegger who talks candidly about his childhood and the housekeeper. >>> and an epic fail by the united states. after being up for a significant lead, the guys in the ryder cup lose big, berman. >> it was a disaster. complete meltdown. well, still, good morning. and welcome to october, everyone. this is "early start." i'm john berman in washington this morning. >> and i'm sir riesirita simon. >>> president barack obama and mitt romney square off wednesday night in denver. both trying to lower expectations practically gushing over one another, but new jersey governor chris christie is going against the grain and setting the bar high for the republican nominee. >>er time mitt romney has been confronted in this campaign with one of these moments, he has come through in a debate and performed extraordinarily well laying out his vision very clearly and also contrasting himself with his vision with hoomp his opponent was at that time. so i have absolute confidenc
expectations and raise the bar for mitt romney heading into wednesday's debate, john. >> a rare moment of honesty, refreshing in a political campaign. what then are the strategies of both campaigns heading into this debate? >> well, president obama has been in nevada a few days during the campaign. mitt romney in massachusetts sparring with rob portman who's playing the role of president obama in these debate prep sessions. for president obama his foe mitt romney, massachusetts senator john kerry. they've been working on this debate for months and months. an interesting story over the weekend, a passage about what mitt romney's been doing. this from the "new york times." it says, "mr. romney's team has concluded that debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he has memorizened and has been tracksing on aides since august." now, they're right debates are about moments but ain an amusin image. mitt romney sitting in a room peppering them with zingers. i would like to be on the wall hearing that. >> not about zingers, serious substantive policy. and
presidential debate it? >>> his back now against the wall, romney is behind in all of our background polls. the candidate presses for a rebound. >> we do not want four more years of where we've been. i represent a different path. >>> president obama meantime tries to seize the moment as early voting begins around the country, offering a closing argument. >> when i took office, we were losing nearly 800,000 jobs a month and were mired in a rut. today i believe that as a nation we are moving forward again. >> this morning, the state of the race. a debate preview, and a look at the issues that will sway undecided voters. with us, republican governor of new jersey, the keynoter at the gop convention, chris christie. and for the obama campaign, the architect of his 2008 run, now white house senior adviser david plouffe. finally, insights and analysis from our political roundtable. joining us, conservative activist and founder of the faith and freedom coalition ralph reed. former democratic governor of pennsylvania ed rendell. anchor of bbc's "world news america" katty kay. and our chief white h
tonight, strong debate from both the president and mitt romney, campaign team. first, here is the campaign adviser, robert gibbs. >> it takes a long time to dig out of this avalanche of bad decisions that were before the obama presidency, one thing we see is clear, mitt romney's plan is to go back to a failed economic theory of tax cuts for the rich, despite the fact he deny attend tax cuts, and the math. and let's go to war with sesame street but give wall street a big, wet, kiss, that is call what got us into this mess, we spent four years digging out of it. >>> meanwhile, gingrich saying the numbers were good for the president, but the overall picture is still gloomy. >> i think it was a significant help to the president. imagine coming out at 8.2 following the debate, i mean people would have entered the week saying it is close to the end. so it is part of the whole process, the campaign will go down to the end. it will be one of the most interesting campaigns in american history, i think you will see it go back and forth somewhat. on friday, the imf said probably no recovery until 201
. >>> the romney camp says they plan to win the debate with zingers. >> i would be tempted to go back to that wonderful by ronald reagan, there you go again. >> how much you want to bet, it doesn't work? >> $10,000 bet? >>> on the eve of election day in ohio, they are sleeping overnight at polling places. we'll go live to cleveland where nina turner is camping out for early voting. >>> and house majority leader eric cantor is fighting for his political life in his own district. wayne powell will join me live following tonight's big debate. >>> good evening, americans. good to have you with us. republicans are hoping for a game changer in the next few days, but romney's path to victory is starting to disappear. president obama is ahead in all of the vital swing states needed for victory. if the election were held today an associated press analysis shows president obama would win at least 271 electoral votes. 270 votes wins the presidency. the romney campaign, no doubt, is struggling to, say the least. romney's own running mate was forced to admit how their campaign has stumbled. >> so,
in 2008. governor romney trailing in the polls currently hoping to use his debate performance to narrow the gap. it was the first time the two candidates were on stage face-to-face, a chance for governor romney to one-on-one answer allegations that the obama campaign has been firing his way. one of them over this idea that governor romney is trying to implement a $5 trillion tax cut for the rich. he repeatedly answered that question for president until it finally came down to this. >> look i've got five boys. i'm used to people saying something that is not always true, but just keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping i'll believe it. but that is not the case, all right. i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans. >> that is probably as close as last night's debate came to a memorable line. rather than being a selection of zingers it was uncharacteristic lee marked by substance, jon. jon: isn't that amazing, substance in a debate. what about the president's performance, and specifically senior voters and his appeal to them? >> reporter: you know, i think in the aftermat
preparing. >> president obama and governor mitt romney are preparing for wednesday's debate on in denver. >> msnbc obama's leaving on sunday for two or three days of debate camp. >> oh, debate camp! >> oh i remember going to debate camp, i remember like no sports, a bitter rival, camp normal malfun. >> let's see if i remember the debate camp stopping if i can. ♪ >> on the shores of lake rhetoric, we practiced logical consistency. will beat your ad hominem attacks on false tautologies. and logical falsie. >> not in the face! not in the face! getting your ass kick is actually written into the song! >> so two highly accomplished men to see which one becomes the most powerful man in the free world. >> romney has to be chomping at the bits. >> beth myers tells campaign surrogates there are several reasons she believes the president will be likely to win the first debate. >> he has done these kind of debates before, this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> oh! >> maybe he is more on home at the vegas stage. >> r rated hypnotists or two gay germans trying to make a white tiger
? >> mr. romney's team concluded the debates are about creating moments, the quick series of zingers he has memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. >> jon: they equipped him with zingers. >> and you know what? the best zingers are two ones you practice for two months. >> a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar. it is a bar for homosexuals. the priest and the rabbi fall in love and get married because of barack obama! zing! >> i will tell you this, people. i would not (bleep) barack obama's economy with the (bleep). zing! >> zing! >> the candidates are preparing for wednesday's debate we go to senior correspondent aasif mandvi. >> you are with the romney camp, how is he doing? >> he is prepping the best he can, jon, but you hate to see an uphill battle like this, this is the president, the greatest or for this, orator this country has seen since lincoln. >> like i mean, mitt romney, talk about brilliant two, harvard degrees, the guy has never even lost an argument, he is no slouch, i mean, he is the president. >> smoke and mirrors, jon, right now they are drilling him on
show. >> i love romney's debate style, but i tell you, if i could be that stiff for 90 minutes, i'd ... (vo) we probably won't regret it. break the ice with breath-freshening cooling crystals. ice breakers. ♪ >> james woods promised to introduce me to >> announcer: stephanie miller. >> but instead he introduced me to danny bonaduce. like meeting a dog turning 30. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: all right. thirtity-four minutes after the hour. about olivia nun -- >> munn. >> stephanie: what did i say? >> nun. >> stephanie: oh boy. in the meantime marvin in new mexico hi, marvin. >> caller: hey, hi. how are you guys doing? >> stephanie: good. >> caller: first of all i would like to say our president is an evil genius. >> stephanie: why do you say that? >> caller: he definitely let romney walk into that debate. i mean look at the headlines today. it's crazy. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: yesterday they were talk about how of these romney supporters were going to jump ship, but now they are doubling down, and they are going to go down with the ship. >> stephanie: right
will be given the first question. mitt romney will have the final word tonight. the debate will be broken up into six 15-minute segments for a 90-minute debate. it will include three on the economy, one on health care, one on governing and one on the state of government. the role of government, i should say. now, both candidates will be standing at podiums. no strict time limits. each candidate will have two minutes to answer that question and then the rest of the segment will be an open discussion about the topic at hand. so that is how the debate is going to do. aides with the obama campaign say his goal is to deliver his message in a crisp and clear manner. to not seem too long winded as sometimes he has in the past. so that's really his goal and also to make the case about why he thinks he can do a better job in these next four year of turning the economy around and to really give people specifics. as i said, the first lady will be there tonight. it is their 20th anniversary. no time to really celebrate tonight. they say they will do that this weekend. >> quite a way to celebrate. thanks
research poll taken after the debate shows 67% of registered voters believe mitt romney had a better night. 25% said president obama. a cbs poll says 46% of uncommitted voters said romney had the stronger performance. 22% said it was the president. the headline in this mornings usa today, romney seizes offense on obama's record. romney takes fight to obama. after a handshake in the middle of the stage and talk of the president's 20th wedding anniversary, they got down to business with details on taxes and debt and what is best for this country's middle class. >> this is where there's a difference because governor romney's plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the bush tax cuts and military spending that the military hasn't asked for. it's $8 trillion. how we pay for that, reduce the deficit and make the investments we need to make without dumping those costs on to middle class americans is one of the central questions to this campaign. >> under the president's policies, middle income americans are buried. they are being crushed. their income has come down by $4,300. this is a tax
of 2008. while governor romney has had nearly two dozen debates during that gop primary. the obama campaign says the president's strategy is focused on shorter, crisper answers. the romney strategy, as reported in "the new york times" has the governor memorizing a series of zingers to try to hit the president with. let's bring in our "news nation" political panel for this monday. democratic strategist chris, national radio host michael, and also an msnbc contributor, and villa skype as you can tell from our shot there, steve, conservative radio show host. you have the visual disadvantage because you're skype. i'll let you start off first here. let me play what paul ryan, completely opposite of what chris christie said this sunday. his assessment of the debates. let's play ryan, please. >> i don't think one event is going to make or break this campaign. look, president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> it's no secret, steve, you are conservative republican. you are not a fan of mitt romney. is this a make or break mom
in tomorrow's debate, mitt romney or president obama. could the unemployment rate be the october surprise that shakes things up in the election? and imagine flying the plane and your seat comes loose. it happened twice. we'll get right to it. we're 32 hours away from the first presidential debate. president obama and mitt romney taking the stage at the university of denver in colorado. a live picture. this inside that will. where the two men will face off for the first time. lost at stake for both candidates. according to our latest poll which is an average of five national polls it is tight race among likely voters the president has 49%, mitt romney at 46%. now both men in past moments wished they could have a do over. we recall a heated exchange between hillary clinton and president obama back in 2008's debate in south carolina. >> while i was working on those streets watching those folks see their jobs shipped overseas you were a corporate lawyer sitting on the board of walmart. i was fighting these fights. i was fighting these fights. knives fighting against those ideas when you were
, when he was attacking romney in the middle section of the debate over his budget, medicare and tax plans. other than that, i don't think people would come away with much of an idea of what president obama would give them if they give him another four years. >> romney, they say, will ultimately rise in the polls because of his debate perfo performance. for that small number of voters that haven't made up their minds, has this helped romney? >> very difficult past few weeks, if last night went well for the president you kind of have a hardening of the belief that the race is virtually sealed, out of reach. the debate has ended that discussion and it's going to remind us, move into the conversation, a reminder that the president faces in this debate. mitt romney did had himself some good with those undecided voters and just as importantly energized the he republican base. there's a sense of retooling in the obama campaign, look, incoming presidents often have problems in their first debate. people don't talk to you like that in the oval office. no question the president needs a reset.
into the conversation, a reminder that the president faces in this debate. mitt romney did had himself some good with those undecided voters and just as importantly energized the he republican base. there's a sense of retooling in the obama campaign, look, incoming presidents often have problems in their first debate. people don't talk to you like that in the oval office. no question the president needs a reset. >> ron brownstein, thank you very much for your wise words of analysis. cnn will reair the presidential debate in case you didn't see it. it will reair the debate at 1:00 pm eastern. >>> a look at other stories we're watching this morning. developing situation in turkey, where the government has authorized troop deployment in foreign countries. that approval comes as turkey continues firing on syria in retaliation for shelling one of the border towns. syria apologizing now for that attack. five people were killed. >>> from baytown, texas, extinguished a blaze that wiped out an exxonmobil plant. the fire is still under investigation here, no one was injured. >>> 79% of teachers in chicago
nominee, and former massachusetts governor romney, the republican nominee. this debate and the next three-- two presidential, one vice presidential-- are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15-minute segments with two-minute answers for the first question. then open discussion for the remainder of each segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects or questions via the internet and other means, but i made the final selections and, for the record, they were not submitted for approval to the commission or the candidates. the segments, as i announced in advance, will be three on the economy and one each on health care, the roll of government, and governing. with an emphasis throughout on differences, specifics, and choices. both candidates will also have two minute closing statements. the audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent. no cheers, aphraus, boos, hisses among other noisy distracting things so we may al
's book. today, two days before he meets the president before the. the debate, romney will attempt to seize on the administration's -- this is by our account his tenth foreign policy speech of the campaign. romney's forays into foreign policy has been a mixed bag. from his rush to criticize the president on egypt and libya before all the facts were known. >> if you had known that the ambassador had died -- >> i'm not going to take hypotheticals about what would have been known. we responded last night to the events that happened in egypt. >> romney's effort to banish his foreign policy credentials with a summer trip was widely panned after romney seemed to insult the british handling of the olympics. his campaign spent weeks trying to explain why he didn't mention the war in afghanistan in his convention speech. today, romney will try again. arguing quote, i know the president hopes for a safer, freer and more pros% middle east allied with the united states. i share this hope, but hope is not a strategy. it's a message he previewed yesterday on the trail. >> i commit to you i will
confidence mitt romney on the trail. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. you had the chance to hear his answers or non answers. now, of course, days later, we're hearing his excuses. >> but while the romney campaign body language has changed, both are anxiously awaiting the first good post debate polls. those will give us our first look at the race after the debate and the friday unemployment report. plus, where will romney be when the results of those polls begin to come in. will he be in coin flip races in places like ohio, iowa and wisconsin? where will the president's number be? still sitting at 49 or 50 or have fallen down to 47, 48? national tracks are one thing. battleground states are another. tuesday, romney stumps virginia, then ohio with chris christie in cuyahoga falls. in three straight rallies in florida, he recounted his memories of a 14-year-old boy, david, that he befriended with leukemia. >> i sat down next to him and he said what happens next? and i spoke with him about what i believe happens next. clear eyes, full heart, can't lose. david c
. good lord. on the eve of the first debate, team romney flubs their lines. >> have you got lines already prepared, attack lines? >> i'm not really a line guy. overseas which is where you and i come from means lake superior. where i come from overseas we refer to lake superior. overseas, which as a wisconsinite means lake superior -- >> i'm not familiar with precisely with what exactly i said but i stand by what i said whatever it is. ♪ how you like me now ♪ how you like me now >>> we begin with the hunt to win october and in particular the next five days that could prove decisive in this presidential campaign. indeed, after a cruel summer that extended well into september, mitt romney is now in the air on his way to denver. more desperate than ever to shake the etch-a-sketch and restart his campaign with a must-win debate on wednesday. much is at stake with the latest battleground polls showing romney losing by 11 points to the president. with the first face-off looming on the horizon, romney finds himself saddled this monday with fresh doubts placed in his mind by the only two peopl
that were watching that debate and expected an honest, serious debate was governor romney. the president, not just disappointed the people who were waiting for him to come prepared. i found it to beay offensive. i think a lot of people did. >> shannon: the american folks will have the chance to see the v.d. p. debate and two more with the head-to-head match up. >> shannon: fair and balanced. let's check in with congressman debbie wasserman-schultz. i am sure there is a lot you would like to respond to. let's start with the contention that and you other democrats know it's a lie to say that mitt romney is proposing a $5 trillion tax cut, qeet you want to keep that narrative going. >> if you look at independent fact checkers, that looked at mitt romney's claim that he didn't have a $5 trillion tax cut proposal, skewed toward the wealthy to require mitts-class tax increases, polito facts, new york times, independent fact checkers and economists have said that mitt romney has embraced for 18 months, until wednesday night, that he has a $5 trillion tax cut plan, skewed toward the wealthy and
putting a high importance on the debates which actually kind of shows the challenge that mitt romney has to actually get his side as enthusiastic about it. >> a shrinking group of undecided voters, chris cizilla, what is the strategy of both sides to reach those people who are still undecided? >> you saw the clip you played with mitt romney in colorado, president obama on sunday night in las vegas, both basically what they both said is the media wants this to be a back and forth brawl, we're going to be serious and focus on the issues because they understand that when it comes to undecided voters, tend to be people, not always, politically independent. those kind of people don't like the nastiness, the back and forth. partisans love that. but independents don't like it. the messaging is i'm a serious person, these are serious times, and we need someone who has the ability, capacity, demonstrated record to lead. so i actually think both of them will be kind of the serious and sober politician as opposed to you showed the clip of scott brown and elizabeth warren, i don't think that's what'
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